Monday, May 22, 2006

The Ten Commandments

Should the USA government remain secular, or is it a nation founded on The Ten Commandments?

I've heard many Americans say the laws of their country are based on these commandments and it is, therefore, right to have them posted up in various governmental institutions.

We may not all be Christian, but we generally go along with their moral code, don't we? I mean, to say otherwise would make us total scumbags, wouldn't it?

The following is the text of the commonly accepted (by Christian and Jewish authorities) commandments as found in the book of Exodus. So this is what you get if the laws of your country are founded on them:

1: God spoke all these words, saying: I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, from the place of slavery.

You will be legally required to believe in God.

2: Do not have any other gods before Me. Do not represent [such] gods by any carved statue or picture of anything in the heaven above, on the earth below, or in the water below the land. Do not bow down to [such gods] or worship them. I am God your Lord, a God who demands exclusive worship. Where My enemies are concerned, I keep in mind the sin of the fathers for [their] descendants, to the third and fourth [generation]. But for those who love Me and keep My commandments, I show love for thousands [of generations].

You will legally be required to follow the Christian god and it will be a criminal offense to follow any other. Also, if you're found worshiping anything other than God - and this includes a picture or statue of him - you will be locked away.

3: Do not take the name of God your Lord in vain. God will not allow the one who takes His name in vain to go unpunished.

At my son's school, a boy was punished for saying "Oh my God". If your nation's laws prohibit this, however, expect to find yourself spending a few days in clink for this terrible crime. This law also:

  • prohibits the misappropriation of religious language in order to commit a crime (isn't that basically describing Christianty?),
  • to participate in occult practices (erm, Christianity?),
  • or blaspheming against places or people that are holy to God (basically, whatever Christian leaders decide is blasphemous this week, you'll be locked up for it).
Man, those jails are going to be full. Better start building some more.

4: Remember the Sabbath to keep it holy. You can work during the six weekdays and do all your tasks. But the seventh day is a Sabbath to God your Lord. Do not do anything that constitutes work. [This includes] you, your son, your daughter, your slave, your maid, your animal, and the foreigner in your gates. It was during the six weekdays that God made the heaven, the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. God therefore blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.

Seems to be a bit of confusion as to whether it's Saturday or Sunday you should not be working on. Whatever day, do anything but rest or worship God and you'll find yourself getting a visit from the law. But don't worry, when they arrive, just point out they shouldn't be working, either. I do hope there aren't any fires or medical emergencies, though, what with all the firefighters and doctors sitting at home with their feet up.

Also, if you want to start up the slave trade, again, feel free. Just so long as they don't have to sweat in your cotton fields on the Sabbath.

5: Honor your father and mother. You will then live long on the land that God your Lord is giving you.

This is going to be great. Prosecutor: "I put it to you, that you did willfully answer back to your mother upon the occasion of your being scolded for leaving dirty socks in the "Cooked Meat Only" compartment of the freezer." I reckon you should get 10-20 stretch for that.

6: Do not commit murder.

Glad God pointed that out. Otherwise we'd all be running round with axes hacking bits off people at random. OK, this law might actually be worthwile. But has anyone ever heard of a society where it is ok to kill each other? Well, the US does have the death penalty.

7: Do not commit adultery.

Stick to one partner or you'll be locked up.

8: Do not steal.

Unless it's Jerusalem and you're a medieval God-fearing knight. In fact, Christians are allowed to steal entire continents from any non-Christian indigenous tribal groups.

9: Do not testify as a false witness against your neighbor.

Don't lie (not restricted to your neighbours). There's no get-out clause for "white" lies, either. So, next time your girlfriend asks if you think she's the most beautiful woman in the world, reply "You're the best looking women I could find who also happens to find me attractive." And don't tell your workmate you can't come to her barbeque because you've got to paint the kitchen ceiling, just give her the truth - although she's quite nice, you find her company tedious in the extreme and you only talk to her at work so she'll cover for you while you take an extra hour for lunch.

If you don't, I'm calling the cops.

10: Do not be envious of your neighbor's house. Do not be envious of your neighbor's wife, his slave, his maid, his ox, his donkey, or anything else that is your neighbor's.

Whatever your sexual preferences in women or farmyard animals, your neighbours belongings are totally out of bounds.

So, not only is it illegal to pinch stuff, it's also illegal to want stuff that isn't yours. In which case, advertising is purely for the purpose of tempting people to commit a thought crime. That's the economy of the richest nation in the world fucked, then. Enjoy living in mud huts, my American friends, I'm afraid you're going to be skint. Good news for global warming, though.

Following these laws, I think you may as well make your entire country a prison, as everyone is going to be doing multiple life terms.

14 comments:

SpaceSuitCatalyst said...

Amen, Brother. Amen.

Glad to know there is some speck of human intelligence in the world.

You live in the UK. Lucky bastard. (Not sure if its much better than the US, though)

Simon said...

I get the feeling us atheists are less hunted in Europe these days. Hopefully it will stay like that. We certainly wouldn't have a nation's leader saying atheists weren't full citizens...

Dr. Zombie said...

Sorry, brother...a little long...

In Re #2:
I always wondered about this - "Thou shalt not worship any gods above me, blah, blah, blah, etc..."

Seems to me that the Christian God is saying here that "I'm the only god you need to worry about. Those other gods don't count. Just me."

Is this an admission on his part that there ARE other gods? And if so, doesn't that blow the whole idea of one god out of the water? Seems to me he blows it by going and saying that, yes, there may be a few others...but they don't carry as much groovy mojo as me.

The Bible's all fiction anyway, and it's paradoxes like this that make it impossible to believe that so many place so much blind faith in such a flawed document.

And make the dark pagan gods (which the Christian god says MUST exist!) save us atheist Yanks from the likes of George Dubya...

Cheryl said...

:-)

Marie said...

Actually, not following those laws, you end up in hell, unless you have Christ's sacrifice covering your sins.

However, you would not end up in prison in a society that uses the ten commandments as a basis for its law (like ours actually does). Only actual physical transgressions have physical consequences. Murder; you're in prison/dead. Hating; you're safe at home. Stealing; you're restoring what you stole, fourfold. Wishing you could steal; you're safe at home.

Theonomically yours!

Simon said...

WTF?

The Maddog said...

Your take on the big 10 is fantastic. Whenever I attack religions I wish I had your subtlety! Great stuff

scribe said...

Wait...








Wait...






There are TEN commandments!!!???

















oh, shit.

dotbar said...

I don't have time to comment on anything but this one thing I picked out (lucky you!)

"You will legally be required to follow the Christian god and it will be a criminal offense to follow any other. Also, if you're found worshiping anything other than God - and this includes a picture or statue of him - you will be locked away."

Actually if anyone really enforced the above they would not be doing God a favor since He doesn't force anyone to believe or follow Him. That's why he gave people choice...so they could choose. I'd find a Bible verse to back it up, but no time right now.

Simon said...

Why are they called "Commandments" then and not "The Ten Choices"?

So, yet again, we find the bible fucking itself in the ass.

Marie here says your US laws are based on these "commandments" - yet she is too brainwashed to read my post and think - "Hm, most of these are personal choices and not laws".

Smell the coffee, Christians, you are spouting crap.

danny2 said...

simon,

sadly, in some people's zeal, they do have the facts slightly obscurred.

america, though many of the founders professed Christianity, was not formed for christian reasons. last i checked, "no taxation without representation" is not from one of Jesus' sermons.

reading the constitution and declaration of independence, i don't know that i find a correlation between them and the ten commandments. people that want to claim there is, are probably trying to force something upon a document.

while i think the government should help preserve basic morality (not steal, not kill, etc.) i do not believe it is in the best interest of the government or of Christianity for those to be blended. in fact, that is a unique feature of Christianity. while islam has a system written into their documents calling for mobilization through politics, Christianity (as biblically described) does not take a political perspective. the beauty of faith, is that it is not imposed. you can't force repentence and trust.

all that said (thanks again for your patience), the point of the ten commandments has been missed slightly. IF these were governmental laws, you're right, every single one of us would be locked up. now take that observation and move it vertically. before God, every single one of us stands guilty.

you could say there are two ways to enjoy a pure relationship with God. 1) perfectly observe all of the ten commandments. but since none of us have pulled that off, God offers: 2) trust the penalty paid by Jesus Christ as your payment for the sins you have committed.

there's plenty more to say (very interesting post and comments) but i have taken up enough of your space with this already. let me know if you want to continue some thoughts.

Simon said...

Danny, in my country the queen is head of state and head of the church - the two are still combined. To say Christianity has never had, nor has now, any interest in political power is naive. Of course Christians have hungered power to enforce their beliefs - the Islamic countries are merely where we were a few hundred years ago. Non-believers were persecuted across Europe.

During the 1600s, at the time America was being colonised by religious fanatics, attempts were made by Christians in power to enforce these commandments by law.

Besides, why "commandments" and not "choices"? A commandment ids an order, is it not?

DaBich said...

How many did you count, Scribe?

danny2 said...

difference between christianity and islam...

when christians attempt to enforce politics upon others, they are seeking to influence in ways that the Bible does not encourage. i can find no biblical texts that grants the queen authority over a church...that was human doing.

in islam, there own texts encourages them to influence the world through attempting to convert...and if that doesn't work, to take over.

i would say that when you see this happen in christian circles, it is outside the authority of the Bible, whereas when islam does it, it is obeying the authority of their text.

as for commandments and not choices...

because if you want to be holy and perfect before God, you MUST obey these things. they are not arbitrary rules, but are based out of His character and nature. the ten commandments reveal to us the life that is pleasing to God.

they also reveal to all of us that we do not meet God's righteous standard, and therefore need someone to take the punishment for our sin away and give us His righteousness (Jesus).