Thursday, April 06, 2006

Depressing, Isn't It?


I often hear atheists talk about the "depression" they felt when they realised there was no meaning to life.

In other words, having been Christians, the moment they stopped believing caused them a sense of loss. I must admit, having been brought up by a father who believes in the afterlife, I also suffered something of a crisis as I came to understand the truth: religion is a human invention.

Christians, and believers (and even atheists, probably) think this state of depression is a natural state of mind inherent in a Universe which, if without God is therefore without meaning.

They're wrong.

I brought my son up to understand there is no evidence for any god. And so, religion has never really concerned him. At his age I was suffering a crisis. The false promises of believers came crashing down, leaving gaping holes in the workings of my mind.

What's the difference? See, I didn't set him up with any expectations of an afterlife or of some good natured beardy guy to look after him, so he's not looking for one. He's perfectly happy with his non-religious existence. There's no hole for him to fill, because his parents didn't create one for him.

Well, he's young, you say. We don't know if he'll need to find something spiritual to fill a hole later in life.

OK, take another example. A friend who was brought up in communist East Germany. Again, he's perfectly happy without a god or an afterlife.

"I was never brought up with some kind of belief or religion unless we include Marxism into this. But even Marx’s ideas failed before my very eyes by the time I was 14 because our state was everything but what old Karl had in mind. So, no, I don’t yearn for a god to exist."

You won't be surprised if I say I think religion is brainwashing. But most people think the moment of brainwashing comes at the point you start to believe. It doesn't. People who turn to a religion have been set up at an early age to go looking for it. How many times do you hear "There was something missing from my life, so I turned to God"?

Religion is like heroin, and we're given a taste of it as soon as we can speak. It's pushed into our minds, ready to fuck us up when the bullshit fails to resist rational scrutiny. Ready to push us into "looking for something to fill a hole" like an addict desperate for a fix.

That's why people that wear their atheist badge with pride tend to be the former addicts who've put away the syringe. Like ex-smokers, they're the ones most likely to demand you stop your filthy habbit. They're the ones most likely to start a campaign.

They're not just fighting you, they're fighting against their need.

21 comments:

DaBich said...

"They're not just fighting you, they're fighting against their need."
Fighting against their need...
for religion? For God?
Please expand on this.
Thanks!

Simon said...

Like the ex-addict whose passionate anti-drugs appeal is as much about fighting his own need for drugs as it is about trying to stop other people taking them.

People who fight the atheist "cause" loudly are fighting their own demons - a meaning provided by the warm glow of an afterlife. It feels good, like heroin.

Angie said...

But then there are some of us who always suspected. I was raised to believe there was something, but no matter how hard I tried it just felt like a lie. And once I wrapped my mind around fact that it was, there was no let down. Not for myself anyways, more "how can people not see this?" Know what I mean?

I'm raising my boys as atheists, and I have to admit I'm glad for where we live --- they are not harassed for it. They are two of the nicest boys around.

Simon said...

That's cool. Yay for the free of mind!

Gentleman-hobbs said...

I let my kids decide for themselves, two have become teenagers so appathy crept in and they don't give a shit. OUr youngest is still in two minds though. Love the store card counter

scribe said...

I never had faith, even as a small child.

Simon said...

I never had a small child, even as Faith.

DaBich said...

Scribe, then what is it you're looking for now?

DaBich said...

Oh and thanks for the answer Simon, I have to digest it.

Simon said...

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scribe said...

Being Faith makes having kids difficult LOL

Dabich,

Answers are what I am looking for-faith is irrelevant.

MichaelBains said...

I'm finding a little faith, misplaced, is even worse than any Faith placed anywhere.

I worshipped Jessie until I realized he was a myth man: Part realife icon, part messiahnic fervor of his followers once he was gone. Once his myth hit the factually quite real god of Rome, well... Let's just say Europe's Remus and Romulus was Yshu bin Mariam via the person of Constantine.

starbender said...

Just 4 the sake of asking~
Is there any proof that GOD does NOT EXIST???
:o

Shinsyotta said...

Well, I never believed in god(s). My first memory of disliking religion was when my teacher at age 8 decided to chastise me in front of the class because I told someone I didn't believe in God. She kept asking me why I didn't believe in God, and I kept relying with "Why do you?". She never answered.
I would say that my main reason for disliking religion is not this incident, though. My whole life I have been a fan of science, an inventor and a futurist dreamer. In order to figure out what would work and what could happen, I had do figure out what is true and what isn't. Science helps people to do this. Religion clouds the water and doesn't make sense. I decided at a young age that religion is stupid and makes people ignore science.
I fight religion in my daily life by asking questions when people declare something the work of God. That's all it takes and if I am branded a hard-line atheist, so be it. I wear the badge with pride.
Having said all that, I do agree that most atheists who really care about religion were once religious. Is this because of the ex-addict thing, or is it because these people need to care about something deeply- be it religion or anti-religion?

Simon said...

All I can say is - the people I know who didn't have any irrational beliefs put into their heads haven't gone on to get depressed about the meaning of life.

The whole looking for a meaning for life is put into our heads by nuts. It's like a "virus", as Dawkins puts it.

If there is a meaning for life for these people, it's in the "here and now" not the "everafter".

I personally think that's a healthier place to live.

Simon said...

starbender, the "prove god doesn't exist" cop-out Christians use is a fake argument.

There are an infinite number of things we can't prove don't exist - are you going to believe an infinite number of irrational beliefs simply because they can't be proved wrong?

Tc said...

Got to agree with you on this one.

DaBich said...

OK, st agreed with you Simon, I wanna see you do a happy dance.

Simon said...

Mistaken identity, I'm afraid, Ms Bich. But still, here's my happy dance...

DaBich said...

OK, it was tc...but hey, I love the way you dance ;)

Simon said...

lol